Subject	Nah, dont think it's fair, nor do I think JWT's price is
Posted by	Snoguitar(moved) on July 18, 2003 at 7:57 PM
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In Reply To	That's a loaded question. Why not answer mine first? (n/m) posted by AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com on July 18, 2003 at 07:48 PM
Message	That's not really the point though, stuff will always sell for a lot more then it's worth, 'tis commercialism. My comment was more in reference to the fact that you prior (couple years ago) doctrine was that you were trying to help out the Z community. Not just charge as much as you can, while still beating out JWT. Heres I nice quote from one of your for-sale ad's of about six months ago: "I'm here to help. As an added token of my dedication to Z's and their owners, I will provide future upgrades for FREE. All you pay is the shipping and handling to get the ECU to me and back to you. If you go with bigger injectors, bigger turbos, etc etc, I will be happy to supply those programs to you to help you move along in your upgrade path." AIM name: Snoguitar
Follow Ups	JWT vs. ASH - Lance88 14:14:49 07/18/03 The big difference - MatD 14:15:39 07/18/03 Search. and after that... - Spee 14:19:18 07/18/03 Ha! (n/m) - JRH(KY) 14:29:24 07/18/03 hmm - fourZero 14:29:57 07/18/03 Re: hmm - Magnum 14:36:24 07/18/03 Because it is a proven product from a reliable vendor. (n/m) - BigTDogg 14:51:20 07/18/03 Re: Because it is a proven product from a reliable vendor. - Magnum 14:55:49 07/18/03 owned by JWT...haha (n/m) - cant_z_me(OH) 14:57:02 07/18/03 there's your problem. - Spee 15:14:25 07/18/03 Re: there's your problem. - Magnum 15:41:12 07/18/03 you're right - Spee 15:56:06 07/18/03 z1 isnt reliable? (n/m) - EricTTZ 15:12:54 07/18/03 Sometimes. Others....hmmmm I've had good and bad. (n/m) - BigTDogg 16:36:18 07/18/03 JWT is just a name I have a Z1 had no problems plenty of HP (n/m) - akaeric 16:54:38 07/18/03 expesnsive? Like B&B.....lol :) (n/m) - ZBlacktt 15:02:59 07/18/03 a few years... - Spee 15:07:56 07/18/03 z1 isn't reputable enough for ya? (n/m) - cant_z_me(OH) 15:13:11 07/18/03 nope. - Spee 15:15:45 07/18/03 you know..some of the largest HP Z's are coming out of Z1 - cant_z_me(OH) 15:25:46 07/18/03 that doesn't change anything for me. - Spee 15:37:47 07/18/03 agree, agree, agree and agree. (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 15:52:50 07/18/03 3rd, Id stay far away from Z1. (n/m) - Snoguitar(moved) 16:04:32 07/18/03 Really???? Name one over 550 RWHP-----> - Kyle(Houston) 16:05:20 07/18/03 Kyle has the monopoly over the high HP Zs:-) - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:23:06 07/18/03 No Monopoly...there are a lot of high Hp cars ---> - Kyle(Houston) 16:49:08 07/18/03 Big HP means nothing...Reliability and Drivability - Aaron (LV) 17:20:41 07/18/03 A monkey can put big turbos on other cars>>> - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:30:41 07/18/03 2nd (n/m) - BigTDogg 15:26:14 07/18/03 2nd! My car isn't a guinea pig either! (n/m) - Red300ztt96 17:26:06 07/18/03 Hate to agree with Spee, but on this post, I do. - SeedyROM 18:38:04 07/18/03 Hey man! - Spee 19:13:09 07/18/03 WRONG Seedy. Its not caution when you guys intentionally - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 03:09:35 07/19/03 Just FYI: I get these sorts of emails daily... - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 03:25:52 07/19/03 Bleh, why did you even respond to me? - SeedyROM 05:24:32 07/19/03 The problem is you guys always feel the need to stir up - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 18:00:22 07/19/03 Ash, wake up already. - Spee 12:39:58 07/20/03 Spencer, your claim that cars running my programs - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:13:57 07/20/03 ugh, you still don't get it. - Spee 18:21:42 07/20/03 Spee, opinions are like assholes, and you certainly have - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 10:43:07 07/21/03 None of the car's running my programs are guinea pigs. - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 22:16:27 07/18/03 Hey at least you can say you actually designed something - PIRANHA 02:38:19 07/19/03 How many cars, for how long?!?!? - Sean92NA 15:27:07 07/18/03 28 Z's with ASHSpec ECU - DK@NJ 17:03:54 07/18/03 1144 with JWT, according to member search. (n/m) - Snoguitar(moved) 17:06:26 07/18/03 And a bunch of people that bought them for $695 directly - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:52:35 07/18/03 I count 78 - fourZero 18:09:06 07/18/03 The actual is closer to 280 units out there. :) (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 19:35:37 07/18/03 My .02 from last month's discussion on this topic>>>> - Dave N 15:52:49 07/18/03 Standalone:-) - George(boost-solutions.com) 14:44:47 07/18/03 what do you mean George? (n/m) - greenmachine 20:16:22 07/18/03 ash is better - cant_z_me(OH) 14:55:17 07/18/03 Tee, I agree with everything except the 400rwhp dyno part>>> - George(boost-solutions.com) 15:14:52 07/18/03 yeah..you're right..but the zem will be available - cant_z_me(OH) 15:18:27 07/18/03 as for JWT final timing, I'm not sure what it is - cant_z_me(OH) 15:20:26 07/18/03 Agree again. But tremendous numbers of >>> - George(boost-solutions.com) 15:35:10 07/18/03 back to back dyno testing JWT vs ASH chip??? - TARGETZ 16:01:11 07/18/03 Extra tweaked,...lol:-) (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:02:49 07/18/03 I just installed an AshSpec in my car an hour ago - 96-2+2TT(RETIRED) 15:17:59 07/18/03 where is your dyno from 61 min ago, and the one 59 min ago? (n/m) - SactoTodd 15:30:57 07/18/03 not wasting my money on dyno time - 96-2+2TT(RETIRED) 15:34:43 07/18/03 then why did you chip it an hour ago? (n/m) - SactoTodd 15:49:24 07/18/03 because it came with the ECU - 96-2+2TT(RETIRED) 15:56:02 07/18/03 Sorry you had to go through this to get your answers. - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 18:23:18 07/18/03 $50 for reprogramming now? hmm... (n/m) - Snoguitar(moved) 19:01:43 07/18/03 yeah wasn't it free befor? like a month ago.? (n/m) - Halo Z 19:29:19 07/18/03 Is that unfair? (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 19:35:09 07/18/03 What happened to your big 'for the community' campaign? - Snoguitar(moved) 19:42:29 07/18/03 That's a loaded question. Why not answer mine first? (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 19:48:23 07/18/03 Nah, dont think it's fair, nor do I think JWT's price is - Snoguitar(moved) 19:57:15 07/18/03 And I stood true to that for a long time and I honor - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 20:00:56 07/18/03 lol, No comment ;) (n/m) - Snoguitar(moved) 20:03:57 07/18/03 You can't win this game anymore. ;-) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 20:06:03 07/18/03 huh? (n/m) - Snoguitar(moved) 20:08:39 07/18/03 Hey, Ash! Got a thought for you to ponder >>> - NytWolf 19:45:56 07/18/03 Hard to answer a hypothetical like that, but >> :) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 20:04:50 07/18/03 I have to admit, I like this reponse better than your first - NytWolf 20:14:02 07/18/03 Being confident in the product you purchase is paramount - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 22:23:53 07/18/03 I'm very impressed ....Wheres my Zemulator! ;P (n/m) - Z1TRUTH 20:36:10 07/18/03
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